Lesley Weidenbener: Indianapolis Business Journal Editor

 

Angela Tuell  00:05

Welcome to Media in Minutes. This is your host Angela Tuell. This podcast features in-depth interviews with those reports on the world around us. They share everything from their favorite stories to what happened behind the lens and give us a glimpse into their world. From our studio here at Communications Redefined, this is Media in Minutes. On today’s episode, we are talking with Indianapolis Business Journal editor Lesley Weidenbener. Lesley became editor of the IBJ in 2021 after five years as its managing editor, and 20 years in government and politics reporting for three news organizations at the Indiana State House. A native of Vincennes and a graduate of Ball State University Lesley started her career at the Independent Mail in Anderson, South Carolina. Hi, Lesley.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  00:56

Hi, how are you doing, Angela?

 

Angela Tuell  00:58

Great. I’m really excited. Looking forward to our conversation today. You spent most of your career – 20 years – before joining the IBJ as a politics and government reporter covering the Indiana State House from various Indiana newspapers. During that time, you covered five governors and 20 regular legislative sessions. Had you always known that was the kind of journalism you wanted to do?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  01:22

Well, I wanted to be a journalist since I was a little kid. And I think I think it was because my parents took several newspapers. So I grew up in Vincennes. And we took the Vincennes Sun Commercial and the Evansville Courier and the Indianapolis Star and my dad talked about what he was reading in the newspaper all of the time, it would show me stories and I had kind of a natural proclivity for writing. And so I think it was a very natural thing to become a reporter. And I just always thought being a reporter was covering government and politics. I didn’t realize when I was younger, that some people became a journalist and covered food and some people covered entertainment and other people covered housing, it just it – I just always thought that it was about covering politics and government. And so that’s the direction I was always headed in.

 

Angela Tuell  02:19

Okay, did – were your parents in journalism?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  02:21

They were not my dad was a dentist, and my mom worked in the school system as an aide and then as a secretary.

 

Angela Tuell  02:29

Yeah. Well, that’s great that they exposed you to that, though, and –

 

Lesley Weidenbener  02:32

For sure.

 

Angela Tuell  02:33

Yeah. What did you like about covering government and politics? And you know, what were you not too fond of?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  02:40

One of the great things about covering government, especially covering the legislature, which I got into fairly early, is that you are exposed to so many topics and different issues. And so even though it feels like you’re doing the same thing all the time, you’re actually constantly being exposed to new ideas and new topics. And I once saw this fantastic editorial cartoon that was reporters coming into work coming into the newsroom. And there was a board that had all of these little, like, post-it notes on it that said things like aviation, abortion, you know, I mean, just like everything you can imagine, and then each reporter would walk up with like a dart and throw it at the board. And then like, whatever they got, that was their story. And that is actually –

 

Angela Tuell  03:34

That’s so cool.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  03:34

Yeah, that’s actually very much the way it felt. And so, you know, over the years, I covered everything from, you know, lizards at a state park down in southern Indiana to, you know, execution at the Federal Penitentiary in Terre Haute to just run-of-the-mill property tax and utility legislation. So it was just about everything.

 

Angela Tuell  03:59

That is really cool. What was your most memorable story, or stories I should say, during those years?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  04:06

It’s really hard to pick and, especially back when I was covering the legislature, I would write hundreds of stories a year and I mean, it was so many that honestly, you could go back, you could look back at a story you’d written a few months ago and think I don’t remember anything about that. But I would say covering the Franco Bannon, and Steve Goldsmith governor’s race was a big one. That was what was. I was pretty early in my Indiana Statehouse career at that point. I learned a lot from the other reporters that I was around. It was a very interesting and exciting race. So covering that race really sticks out to me, as does covering the presidential primary when Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were still battling it out for the nomination. And then I’d say honestly if I had to pick a single story, I covered with a team the execution of Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber at the federal –

 

Angela Tuell  05:11

In Terre Haute, right?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  05:11

Prison in Terre Haute. And it’s not the story itself, though, but it was just the – I had never done anything quite like that. And I was working for the Louisville Courier-Journal at the time and the Courier-Journal in the Indianapolis Star worked together on it. And the entire, team that was there, the way we had to go about working, we were in a tent out in the federal penitentiary lawn, and everything about it was just different. And so I have a lot of memories of that.

 

Angela Tuell  05:43

Yeah, Were you there when it happened as well?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  05:45

I was not in the I was not in the prison. And I was not one of the people who went in to witness. Very glad that I wasn’t.

 

Angela Tuell  05:54

Yeah.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  05:55

However, I was part of a group that wrote a number of the belief stories.

 

Angela Tuell  06:00

Wow, amazing. You’ve also provided political analysis for a number of television and radio networks and programs including C-SPAN, Indiana Weekend Review,  Indiana Lawmakers, and Indy’s Morning News on WIBC Radio. When you went into print journalism, I bet you didn’t think you’d be on TV.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  06:18

I did. Uh, you know, when I went to Ball State University, the print the newspaper journalism, and the TV journalism were totally separate parts of the campus like nobody talked about the convergence, like they did later in my career. And so yeah, it was really not something I thought about. And I think it started when Jim Shella was hosting Indiana Weekend Review, and he asked me to fill in one week. And I have to tell you that and this is this was humbling as a print reporter, going on TV really changed my career. And I was never a regular on any show. I was not a regular on Indiana Weekend Review, but I subbed a lot. And I’ve always told Jim Shella that he really did change my career from the moment I first appeared on that show, people in the statehouse looked at me differently. And like I said, that was humbling because for years, I’ve been writing stories that have been on the front page of the newspaper in Fort Wayne or the front page regularly newspaper in Louisville, which covered the you know, southern Indiana suburbs. And, and so you know, you feel like you’re really making an impact.

 

Angela Tuell  07:31

Big time, right?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  07:32

Yeah. But then the, you know, you go on TV, and it just changes the way people look at you. At least it did, then I think it’s, It’s a little harder to tell now whether it would be the same because of the way people watch TV it’s just so different, or watching video is so different than it used to be. But it really made people at the statehouse, think of me in a different light. And it gave me credibility. I frankly didn’t know how much I needed.

 

Angela Tuell  07:58

Yeah. And so after 20 years, is that what helped drive you into the new role as managing editor of the Indianapolis Business Journal?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  08:05

I don’t think it was actually.

 

Angela Tuell  08:07

Okay.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  08:08

You know, you don’t think that some things have things happen in your life that you think are bad at the time, and they turn out to be good things and that’s kind of that’s sort of what happened to me here. So I, as I mentioned, was working for the Louisville Courier-Journal, and Louisville and that newspaper, we had had an Indianapolis Bureau for 40 years, I think.

 

Angela Tuell  08:29

Oh, wow.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  08:30

And but they were owned by Gannett as is the Indianapolis Star and during a round of cost-cutting – Louisville decided to close the Indianapolis office which you know, was quite devastating for me. But, as you know, I did not blame my editor, the editor of the paper for that. I mean, he had some tough decisions to make, and it made sense. So, they closed the bureau. I lost my job. And so I had to find something new. And at just at that moment, Franklin College, which had started a State House reporting program was looking for someone who could take that program full-time.

 

Angela Tuell  09:10

That’s very well respected, by the way, for those listening that don’t know.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  09:15

They didn’t have a publication at the time, so I took that job. Kept me in the State House. We started the website called TheStateHouseFile.com.

 

Angela Tuell  09:25

Okay.  I didn’t know that was started under you.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  09:28

Yeah. And I and we started, we create, you know, we trained young journalists, and yeah, and at the time, we would sometimes have 20 kids in during the legislative session. And we were, you know, teaching them how to report about this politics and state. And I absolutely loved it. Those kids were incredible to work with. They taught me as much as I taught them.

 

Angela Tuell  09:57

Wow.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  09:57

And it gave me a taste of management experience that I really – and editing experience – that I had never really considered. I thought I would be a Statehouse reporter forever. But I started doing some editing. I stayed there for about little more than four years and actually kind of fell in love with editing. And so I got a call from IBJ when the managing editor here left, and I really took the breakfast without much intention of making a change. But as soon as I spoke to Greg Andrews, who was the editor then, I thought this was something I wanted to do. This is a job I want. And that’s what happened.

 

Angela Tuell  10:36

So for those who are not super familiar with the Indianapolis Business Journal, which we also call the IBJ. Yeah, tell us more about it and its audience and you know, much of what you say I’m sure, or you know, assuming applies to many of the business journals across the country that are even in the same group.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  10:53

Indianapolis Business Journal is a locally owned newspaper. We are owned by three entrepreneurs to Mickey Mauer and Bob Schloss are minority partners. They actually bought the Indianapolis Business Journal a few decades ago, from an out-of-state owner and they were the owners for a number of years. And then I think it was about six years ago, Nate Feldman, who’s a former Indiana Secretary of Commerce decided to buy in. He has since bought a 50% share and is our CEO of IBJ Media. So at IBJ Media, we have three news brands. We have the Indiana Lawyer, which is a statewide newspaper for the legal community. We have Inside Indiana Business, which is a business television show, and a website and newsletters, and then it focuses on business news statewide. And then we have IBJ, which focuses on business news in Central Indiana. And we have a once-a-week newspaper. But we are very much a daily news organization. We have several newsletters every day, including something we call Eight at 8, which are eight things that you should know first thing in the morning, we have a daily newsletter that goes out at about one o’clock. And then we have industry newsletters and other newsletters that go out all week. And we’re constantly posting on the website. So we’re really a daily operation.

 

Angela Tuell  12:24

Yes. And after five years as managing editor, you earned the top spot as the editor. Congratulations, by the way.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  12:31

Thank you, I appreciate that.

 

Angela Tuell  12:33

Please tell us a little more about what that role entails and how it’s different than, you know, managing editor to editor, what a typical day looks like, that sort of thing.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  12:42

I can tell you my typical day is a lot of decision-making, I feel like that is the major that is the most important thing I do is to make decisions that help other people kind of get on with their day and or to set priorities. I still do a lot of editing. And I do a little bit of writing. But I would say most of my time is spent trying to help other people in the newsroom make decisions about what is the best story, who are the best sources to call, how do we want to cast something, is a story better to be in the print publication, or is it better to be online? How are we going to illustrate that or what kind of graphic are we going to do? So that is a huge part of my day. I also serve on the IBJ media management team. And so I spend, I also spend a lot of time thinking about our larger company, and how the things that we do will drive more subscribers. You know, we think of our subscription base, really as decision-makers, and either decision-makers or people who want to be decision-makers. Whether that is an executive at a company, a CEO, a founder of a company a middle manager, or someone who just wants to move up in their company. It can also be people who are leading not-for-profit organizations, or people in government. But people who are in positions where they’re making decisions, that’s kind of how we view who our audiences.

 

Angela Tuell  14:12

Yeah. And how is your role currently different than the managing editor role?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  14:16

What – they are actually somewhat similar in that because we’re not a very big organization, the entire company is about 60 people. Our newsroom is about, is 19 people, although that includes designers, researchers, and copy editors. We have seven reporters, and we have several editors. And so I would say the biggest change in becoming the editor is really in setting the strategic vision for where we want to go and making the bigger decisions about what’s important to us and where we want to focus our time. We, really view business very broadly. A lot of people assume that we just cover companies and we really don’t We cover politics government, and –

 

Angela Tuell  15:06

Entertainment.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  15:07

Absolutely. We have a new newsletter, relatively new called After Hours, where we cover a lot of the arts and entertainment. We do a lot of different kinds of things, but we don’t have a ton of people. And so trying to figure out where to best use our resources is probably the difference between being the managing editor and an editor is I say, making more of those calls.

 

Angela Tuell  15:29

Yeah, you definitely can’t be indecisive. In that type of work.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  15:31

I know, I was just talking, was just talking about this where, you know, when I was young, I had a group of girlfriends we all worked in at the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette together. And we used to think back then that the editors knew a ton. And I went to them and asked them a question about what we should do and they knew the answer. And then, you know, then you move up into a position and you realize that they know a little more, you have a little more experience, but you’re really, your role is just to make the call and hope for the best. And just try to use, you know, whatever experience, you have to make the best call you can but there’s so many things that don’t have right and wrong answers. And so you’re just constantly using your judgment to decide the best thing possible.

 

Angela Tuell  16:16

Yeah, and your journalism training.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  16:18

Absolutely. And just frankly, all the things that you learn along the way, because right now we’re constantly, first of all, the world is constantly changing, and the industry is constantly changing. And so you have to be willing to be learning all of the time. I mean, I A great example is, you know, there’s a there’s kind of a controversy about the use of the word Latin X. Some people of Hispanic origin, do not like the word Latin X, other people think it is a really great modern way to be, to be not be gender specific, when you’re talking about people who are Hispanic. And, you know, the issues like that, and we’re trying to make decisions about how we use words, how we use phrases, what we cover, how we do it, who our sources are, that stuff changes every day. And so it’s just, you know, you just constantly have to be willing to change.

 

Angela Tuell  17:16

Yes, yes. In the time that you’ve been at the IBJ, what changes have you implemented or overseen?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  17:23

We have really tried to diversify our sources more, we have also tried to just do a lot more stories that cover marginalized communities or cover not always just marginalized communities, but more diversity in who owns businesses and who is working in management and, and top positions and try to get a lot more of those voices in the paper. We’re also trying to do, for example, this week, we have an issue coming out that is completely focused on downtown. And so we’re really trying to harness our resources so that we can cover things in broader ways with a lot more context, to help people make better decisions and to understand complicated situations better. And so we’ve really worked on that. Also, last year IBJ Media, the larger company created a program called Indiana 250 To recognize 250 of the most influential people in Indiana, I oversaw that project. So that’s been a big thing that we’ve been working on. And then we’ve made a few changes in the paper, we just started a new made-in-Indiana feature, one that we’re really excited about that is products that are made here, whether they’re things that you’ve heard of, or maybe things that you never knew about. And so that’s a fun feature that we’re just getting started.

 

Angela Tuell  18:45

Yes. What do you believe are the biggest challenges for businesses in the Indiana Indianapolis area?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  18:52

Now I really think talent finding enough talent is, is the biggest thing. You know, and that situation has changed so dramatically with the ability for people to work from anywhere, which becomes then a big challenge for the state of Indiana. It doesn’t do Indiana a ton of good to have a lot of companies who are located here because taxes are low or because the business climate in tradition, in the traditional sense is good if all of their employees live elsewhere and work remotely. And so in both businesses and the state and communities need to figure out ways to be more attractive to individuals and to workers so that they will want to come and be in Indiana and then are easier to hire for companies who are here and you know, all of the big economic development decisions that you hear about and the companies that may choose to go to another state rather than Indiana. Those decisions are increasingly made on how companies can get talent, especially high-tech manufacturing companies that do need people to work in person. So they’re looking at how educated is your workforce. How trainable is your workforce? How many people do you have who are looking for a job? And, you know, when you live in a state like Indiana where the unemployment rate is, I mean that the national unemployment rates are already low, it’s really low in Indiana, you know, you have to ask yourself as a business, where am I going to find my talent? So that is a big challenge facing companies and the state.

 

Angela Tuell  20:24

Yeah. What over your career are you the proudest of?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  20:29

I think I have tried very hard to be as objective as possible. And to try, I mean, you cannot eliminate what your biases are. We all live our lives. And we see things through our own lenses. What you have to do as a journalist is you have to try to take off those lenses or you have to find ways to – you have to know your vulnerabilities in terms of where you might be biased, and you have to have ways to try to attack those. I’ve worked really hard on that in my career. Obviously, there, there could be people who don’t think I’ve done enough in that way. But I tried to always be very fair, I tried to listen to people. And I work really hard to keep IBJ kind of on the, you know, reporting things straight so that people can make their own decisions. And it’s very interesting because we all read and see things through our own lenses, you know, two different people can read the same story and come away, thinking that we were pro-Republican or pro-Democrat or pro-business or pro-labor. We can get these comments, you know, about from both sides, saying that we weren’t fair. But I think, in some ways that shows that we’re trying really hard to, to be as straight and narrow as possible. And that’s something that we really work hard at here. And that’s something I’m very proud of.

 

Angela Tuell  21:57

Yeah, it is. I mean, you all do a wonderful job at that. And I, I feel, you know, as my background as a journalist, I feel that most journalists really work that way. It’s, it’s hard to see that, that it’s being said differently, you know, that there are –

 

Lesley Weidenbener  22:12

It is. And they’re increasingly it’s difficult to tell, especially in other – it’s easier in print – but in other media, it’s really hard to tell sometimes the difference between what’s coming out of the newsroom, the news reporters, and what’s the editorial department, in his opinion, we work very hard to make sure we always label things so that people know the difference.

 

Angela Tuell  22:36

Yes, yes. What mistakes do you see PR people making when it comes to interacting with you and the IBJ staff?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  22:45

Well, first, we, you know, PR people are incredibly important to what we do. They give us great story ideas, they help us to put, and get people on the phone. They help us meet people that we would never otherwise known about. So generally, the relationship between reporters in the newsroom and PR folks is fantastic. So anything I say is not meant to imply that there isn’t a great relationship because they’re almost always. You know, at some of the things are small. Like, it’s surprising how often we get a press release that has somebody’s name on it to call and then you call that person they’re either on vacation or not available.

 

Angela Tuell  23:24

No way.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  23:25

Yeah, you’d be surprised how often that happens, it happens a lot. Also, I think they’re, you know, there are different kinds of PR folks. So there are people who are pitching stories a lot. And working for companies that are trying to get their name out or trying to get their column in the paper. And those, those relationships are, they’re pretty easy, they’re pretty good. The ones that are a little more difficult are when PR agencies or when PR professionals are representing maybe a government agency or a place where we are seeking information and that sometimes is more difficult. There are often times when those folks assume that if we’re asking for information must be because we’re working on some negative story and, you know, most of the stories we write are non-negative. We do sometimes do that. But most of the things aren’t that way. And it is amazing how quickly a reporter can start to think that there’s something to hide when someone acts like there’s something to hide.

 

Angela Tuell  24:28

Yes, yes. I try to tell clients that all the time.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  24:31

Yeah, it’s amazing. And so that – you know, I think that is a big thing, too, is that you can’t just assume that because a reporter is calling you that they are they’re trying to cause a problem or trying to expose something. I mean, most of the time that’s just not what it is. So those are two things that I would mention.

 

Angela Tuell  24:51

Those are great and also the timeliness even though, your print outlet is weekly you work on these daily deadlines, and calling a reporter back right away, and responding as quickly as you can is very important.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  25:04

It is really important. I will say we actually, have been having a lot of discussions here about how we need to be much better about giving people more time to respond to things. And we need to be better about how we reach out to people. So we’re really working on that. It’s a very difficult situation when you feel like you’re in a competitive is, competitive situation, you’re trying to get the news out before someone else does. But we’re, we are working hard to give people as much opportunity as possible to respond to things.

 

Angela Tuell  25:39

Yeah, that’s good. Can you tell us – you mentioned columns – can you tell us a little bit more about opportunities for columns, how we should be pitching them, and how that works?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  25:48

The best opportunity for columns that IBJ is on our Op-Ed page, which is where we run two viewpoints every week. That’s what we call them, we call them viewpoints. And they always, require someone to take some kind of position. So we do get column pitches or viewpoint pitches, where people kind of want to just write about the awesomeness of their organization or something like that, and there’s nothing wrong with those, but they don’t fit very well in that spot. What we’re really looking for is people who want to take a position, maybe they want to advocate for legislation for a particular reason or advocate against legislation for a reason. Maybe they want to encourage the mayor’s office to do something, or the business community to take a stand. Those are the kinds of things that we’re typically looking for, for a viewpoint column. Those are about 580 words. We often get pitches where the columns are much, much longer, and people say they just can’t cut it down. And could we just please run it longer? But the format of the page really doesn’t allow for that. That is the that’s the most common spot where people would like to have columns run. And in any way, anyone can send them to me personally, I usually do all of the choosing of the columns and work the most on the editorial page. And my email address is Lweidenbener@ibj.com. If you just Google that it’s a hard name, but you’ll, you’ll find it easily.

 

Angela Tuell  27:21

That’s great. Do you prefer for the column to already be written or, Hey, we have this idea for what the column would be, here’s the topic.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  27:29

Both things happen, and it doesn’t matter to me. It’s totally up to the person whether they want to do it, you know, some people are writing columns, for websites or for – that they’ve something they might send internally, so they’re writing it anyway, so they can send it to this after. But if, I’m absolutely fine with getting a pitch on an idea, that’s fine, too. Then we also have letters to the editor. And we’re always looking for good letters, that are up to 300 words. And they’re it’s, we like them the best when they comment on something someone else has written or a story that’s in the paper, maybe in response to a column. We also run them for people who are just advocating like their senators to do something. And so we’re always we’d love having those. Then in the Focus section, we have something called Viewpoints from the Industry where – business journals are interesting, we have these, This was something I was not familiar with before I came to IBJ but it actually happens all across the country. Business journals have Focus sections, and there’s like a calendar in advance. So you know that this week the focus is going to be on hospitality. Next week, it’s going to be about residential real estate. You can find that calendar on our website, you can email me and I can send it to you as well. But the Viewpoint from the Industry is an opportunity for an expert in the field of the focus section to write a column of about 700 words, 750 words, that offers some insight into maybe a new law that affects people in that industry. Or maybe it’s a new way of thinking about doing business in that industry. So those can be less opinionated and more industry-focused. Those are the primary opportunities for writing for us. Another thing I should mention is that Indiana Business, which of course is part of our organization, also accepts prospective columns. And I think there’s a lot more flexibility there in terms of length, and opportunity. So that would be another option is to send in things for Inside Indiana Business.

 

Angela Tuell  29:32

Great. That’s super helpful. What’s ahead for the IBJ?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  29:36

Well, as I mentioned, we just put out this issue all about downtown Indianapolis. And we are going to be spending quite a bit of time over this year writing about issues related to downtown. You know, we started about, a few stories about downtown and it just felt like it was impossible to put them into context without doing more so we did a whole issue and then we got into that and decided that wasn’t enough. And so over the next year you’ll see us writing a lot more about downtown and both its challenges and its opportunities because there are a lot of both. As a company, you’ll be starting to see us do more statewide things. So we’ll have some announcements soon about, about how we might be reaching out to other communities. So we think that is very exciting. And then, you know, pretty soon we’ll be starting on our next Indiana 250 list. So we’ll be eager to hear from people about who they think are the most influential people in Indiana.

 

Angela Tuell  30:29

Exciting. I’m assuming with all of this, you don’t get much free time. But when you do, what do you enjoy doing?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  30:37

I recently have started doing a lot more going out and listening to music. You know, we did a story recently about the American Pianist Association via the Jazz Piano Competition. And, and I really was not very aware of that all of a sudden, I’ve gotten a little into that we’ve been going, my husband and I have been going to quite a few shows. I like to pretend that I’m a little bit creative and crafty. And so every now and then I’m working on something like that. I used to spend quite a bit of time doing reupholstery and some projects like that, but I have not had a lot of time for that lately. I would say the major thing I do is spend some time with my husband my nieces and other family, members of my family.

 

Angela Tuell  31:20

Great. Well, how can – you mentioned your email address – but how else can listeners connect with you online?

 

Lesley Weidenbener  31:25

So on Twitter, I’m at Lweidenbener. And so my last name is W-E-I-D-E-N-B-E-N-E-R. So Twitter, it’s LWeidenbener and on LinkedIn, it’s LesleyWeidenbener. I’m pretty easy to find you and we have a really unique, right, people can find you pretty easily. So I’d love to hear from folks.

 

Angela Tuell  31:46

Yes. And they can also subscribe to the IBJ and sign up for the newsletters too.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  31:50

Absolutely. We have a lot of our newsletters that are free. Eight at 8, the Daily, our Breaking news and News update emails are all free. We offer lots of subscriber deals so if you send me an email I can I can send you an offer for a little bit off of the IBJ subscription. And if you’re a subscriber not only do you get everything in IBJ you also get everything Inside Indiana Business and we now have some subscriber-only emails so you get the emails about real estate, healthcare, the hours, arts newsletter we talked about all of those, come with being a subscriber.

 

Angela Tuell  32:30

Yes, I can vouch it’s all fantastic. So –

 

Lesley Weidenbener  32:33

Oh – thank you so much, Angela. I appreciate it.

 

Angela Tuell  32:35

Thank you so much, Lesley. It’s wonderful talking with you.

 

Lesley Weidenbener  32:37

Great to talk to you too. Thanks so much for having me.

 

Angela Tuell  32:42

That’s all for this episode of Media in Minutes, a podcast by Communications Redefined. Please take a moment to rate, review and subscribe to our show. We’d love to hear what you think. You can find more at CommunicationsRedefined.com/podcast. I’m your host, Angela Tuell. Talk to you next time.

A lifetime of reporting on government and politics seemed natural for Lesley while growing up in a household that read and talked about the news of the day.  Listen to follow her career from covering the Indiana legislature to teaching journalism students at Franklin College and starting TheStateHouseFile.com, to landing as the editor of the Indiana Business Journal.  

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